Ok,
i’ll have a chat with her and report back.
We may be able to access free training through BHF too.
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BHF aren’t sure if the Post Office is getting one yet…
She said we should apply for this pronto.
We already did, last year and were turned down. The estate is not open 24/7 to the public.
https://discourse.southlondonmakerspace.org/t/getting-a-public-access-aed/36905/9
Ah ok, i didn’t see that.
No worries! Didn’t expect you to!
Hi.
As part of my job, I am an Advanced Life Support instructor, registered with the Resus Council. I can provide training in the safe use of AEDs and basic life support if needed. Don’t think I can issue official certificates though, but perhaps we could keep our own register?
Unlike many of our tools at the space, AEDs are basically idiot-proof and require minimal training (as already mentioned above).
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Since the vast majority of cardiac arrests are not shockable i.e. the AED will not reverse it and CPR will be needed until paramedics arrive, we should also get a pocket mask to enable safe mouth to mouth breathing. Many available, but here is an example of what I mean. Low cost investment with potentially huge benefits.
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I tried to explain this before, but got a bit shouted down.
Thats a great tip, I’d hope that our First Aid Kit at least has a conventional plastic one.
I also suggested we consider a bleed kit, given the space’s nature and its location in South London. Do you have any thoughts on this?
People have mentioned a bleed kit before - if someone can choose one I will order it…
My hope is that @Ejlindskog might be able to advise.
The post office is in costcutter so will only be available 7-11 unless it is in a box outside
Correct, thats what I was indicating.
Hi.
I will admit that as a hospital doctor I have limited experience with pre hospital trauma including traumatic haemorrhages.
However, I assume we’re talking about catastrophic injuries such as traumatic limb amputation, where controlling bleeding is the priority. The kits are not that expensive and should have a trauma torniquet in them, which can make a massive difference to outcomes. It doesn’t require much training either, if any. As with the AED, if you are in a situation where you have to use it, you can’t really make things any worse.
Fortunately the Makerspace is centrally located, so ambulance response times should be under 5 min (or so one would hope). Therefore, only the very initial management should have to be done by the first aider. That would include stemming catastrophic bleeds, applying AED +/- giving mouth to mouth (via mask).
In a real emergency, applying dressings or splinting fractures should not really be needed given our location. (not talking about more minor injuries where dressings are defo appropriate before seeking further help.)
In short, I think a bleed kit is a good idea.
Hope this is helpful. 
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Is this already too much perhaps, or just about right?
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Somehow I don’t think we can have a supply of adrenaline and amiodarone for the non shockable rhythms!
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South London Health Space
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Haha. Yeah, there’s a limit
should is definitely the operative word there but as one of the poor sods who has to try and find the ambulances to keep the terminally accident prone of London from becoming terminal can confirm there are times where there is literally nothing to send even to serious calls for quite some time…
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Thank you @unknowndomain
Ordered…
Will install between woodshop and metalshop as per @lewisss unless there are other ideas…
Cheers
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