I dropped the producers an email , just to open a dialog. (When in doubt, try to get a discount).
I’m not currently in touch with the festival organisers, do you know if they run it as a ticketed event, or just a see who shows up event?
Film screenings at the Makerspace?
Yes, worth a shot. What did you say?
Not sure if ticketed, hope so. But free entry.
Great. Well, one way or t’other we should all meet? A quick face to face sounds like time well spent at this point?
@Dermot , I told them that we’d do it on a donations basis, and that we’re a very small venue. I wondered if the licence could be scaled to match our small capacity.
@tobyspark Sounds good to me. I think I’m going to try and make it down to the uMeet for a change next thursday (shifts permitting), does that work for people?
The festival is free, so we can’t ask for donations. Anyway, see what they come back with.
I can’t make it tonight
I should be able to make next Thurs.
Thursday daytime?
Or I can do Wednesday evening.
I’m booked Wednesday evening, but perhaps I can write up notes on Thursday?
They offered a discount, but that still leaves a certain shortfall to cover for an income of zero. Any ideas of how to approach this?
We have some of the GLA funding set aside for events. Given that we’re not just simply showing films, it could apply
How much discount? Remember that the Festival will potentially also be applying for rights (if they approve all our choices) so we should share share it with them
We might need to look at this funding with regards to the whole festival. But let’s see what the organisers come back to us with.
I would really like to be at the meeting.
What about next Tuesday? Thursdays aren’t good for me.
Regarding the Make film, I don’t see why we should have to pay for licensing as that’s part of the film festival’s remit. Maybe @rory_yeung should forward the correspondence thus far on to the film fest folk to have them carry on with that aspect of things.
Has there been any word back from the film fest folk?
@Rory_Yeung ah, crap, were you at the space tonight to talk film festival? I’ve just had it dawn on me - I totally forgot, was there for laser cutter and had to run back to family, I must have seemed, ah, a bit bonkers.
I just had a look at which VFX comanpy did the fx and it turns out it’s DNeg (and some others), which is the company I start back with tomorrow.
I still don’t really have my head wrapped around the idea of what a workshop would be?
There’s talk of trying to get some of the artists who worked on the movie down.
So I guess this means we are looking for a workshop specific to Ex Machina.
So here are the limitations as I see them and I’d like to hear what the spec for a presentation would be within these parameters.
Maybe I can’t see the wood from the trees, but there are so many stages to making a VFX movie.
We would not be able to get any of the assets for a specific movie, unless we got a very enthusiastic VFX supervisor and even then he/she doesn’t own the assets, the production company (as opposed to the post-production company) own the assets.
On top of this, none of these assets will work outside the company pipeline. VFX companies use as much of their own code I’d say as anybody elses.
Individual elements like rendered exr’s would prob work, and individual alembic files (although hey prob have some proprietary file type by now so even that is doubtful.)
So, it might be possible in the glass half full sense to get an artist/s to come down, but they would basically be doing a workshop which is not ex machina, or else just alking about VFX, which I can do in the broad sense for all areas and ind epth for my own areas (Pipeline and lighting and some comp).
which leaves the question of what we want the workshop to be?
an animation workshop, lighting workshop, rigging, ??
If its a bit of everything we are prob looking for a Generalist T.D. (Technical Director) which prob means
someone who didn’t work on Ex machina, since most companies use specialists on Feature, although Double Negative is a bit looser on this and uses some semi- generalists on feature.
So from my point of view, talking about doing a workshop for ex machina,
which would be the same as giving a workshop on how a hospital made a specific person better, without the persons medical files or the hospital
what do we hope the people who come will walk away knowing?
I didnt want to sound too negative there, I just think we need to think about what we want to do.
I am still happy to commit some time and effort to this.
I just realised that its a “15” rating as well, so the workshop will be basically an adult orientated one I guess so?!
@conomara that’s exactly why I asked you.
I honestly don’t know how it would work, or who for, but you’ve highlighted a lot of stumbling blocks.
The VFX person who is also one of the Festival organisers, and I believe suggested the workshop is called Melanie Byrne.
Perhaps I should put you in contact, or maybe you’ll see her at work tomorrow?
I’ll still keen on the animation workshop idea, as I can easily visualise it, and it would have very broad appeal.
if u could put me in touch that would be cool.
she is a producer (according to imdb), they are the ones
who organise the human side of things.
They generally aren’t expected to know
much about the technical side of things and
they normally meet and excede this expectation.
She would give us leverage in getting
artists down, but I still see all kind of problems.
We sign fuck tonnes of non-disclosure stuff.
Companies violate these things alot by giving interviews
etc, but they often dont as well.
I’d like you/the makerspace to figure out what ye would
want to know as well from a workshop.
VFX recreates the known and unknown world, so
its a broad subject to say the least.
what questions would you ask? what techniques
do u want to know about, no questions would be
too stupid
we’ve worked on at least some of the same movies at the same company, theres an outside chance i know her.
An introduction would still be good