https://reyooz.com/collections/storage/products/lockers-storage-cabinet
something like this? keys will be lost :))
Member input on storage
@Brendon_Hatcher yeah was just looking at price / value :D.
Personal locks might cause people to leave stuff there for a very long time, and nobody else can use it. Just thinking long term, might not be an issue, but that’s just what i was thinking.
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I’d thought compartments people can leave stuff in, but cannot lock them in.
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I suggest to create a space for leaving active projects, max one project per member for max a week (tag with date and member name on the project). Monthly we can remove tags from the expired projects and materials are available to all members. I’m not concerned about security.
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Last time we spoke about this, I think we were on one active project at a time for a month max. But Where is that recorded, who knows.
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What about just a sticky label on the project? Maybe later on a ledger/table on the discourse if we want to be sophisticate.
Thanks for the link Kyle.
I guess we can review the stuff there and then discuss how to express that physically in the space.
I have imagined (unlocked) lockers and a few larger 1x1m cupboards/bins/cages/shelves. Not sure how we accommodate large woodshop projects without it becoming a giant stack again.
One idea I’ve had is the first two weeks of a storage request is free then 5 quid a week after. It would hopefully motivate folks to come pick up their left items without being too punitive.
Lockers can be found for cheap on ebay.
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Observation from snug cleanup:
- Sticky labels fall off projects
- Projects that consist of several bits are difficult to ring-fence and keep together
- It was clear that some projects had been stored for so long that they really could be considered abandoned
- There were possibly useful tools, materials and items that appeared to have been donated and then abandoned in place (no-one taking ownership or responsibility for them)
We may actually be talking about different things (I guess, the reason for my table above):
- Projects being assembled tend to be bigger, room-specific, require careful treatment by others, and tend to stay for a shorter period
- Material storage tends to need shelving, racking or stands, is bigger, and lasts for a longer period
- A “member’s box/shelf/locker” is a defined and limited space assigned to a member for a longer term
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It’s all there! Sweet.
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Monthly storage for 20£a month is unheard of
Is it?
I know this is for pros, not hobbyists - so maybe £20 a month is high for us - but our space has value to the members, so having a bunch of it used for months and months by the few is unfair to the rest… So what is a price that is fair - but makes people take their stuff home?
Another idea in use at Nottinghack -
Standard sized boxes…
https://guide.nottinghack.org.uk/storage.html
https://wiki.nottinghack.org.uk/wiki/Members_Storage
https://wiki.nottinghack.org.uk/wiki/Members_Storage_Downstairs
Now they likely have more space than us to devote to storage - but standard sized boxes you buy that fit into standard shelved makes a lot of sense…
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BB is 80-120£/month for large project and they are a professional set up. Ieant that 20/month is a bargain that makes slms a prospective storage company eventually. But I can see pros and cons.
I think the only reason for charging is to limit uptake, and get people to release the storage instead of just keeping it.
However, I am fine with a user-pays principle for niche expensive consumables, but not for use of the space (including storage). I think it would seriously change the character of the space.
The other thing is that the storage fee would have to be quite high before it achieved the goals above. At that high level, we would probably exclude people who could usefully use storage.
I am in favour of a carefully calibrated response to the different kinds of storage (as described in my previous post).
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Good points- it doesn’t have to be a cost, but we need a way to incentivise people to remove inactive projects. In the past we have tripped over and moved around the same projects year after year. So maybe just enforcing some agreed time limits? Not sure…
Also space does have a cost, if we have a storage locker for every member we won’t have any room for tools / making…
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And I think the point was that there’s free storage for what we consider an active project that you need multiple days to work on. Using the SMLS as long term storage leaves less room for everyone else.
Just want to add in that I like your outlined approach here. “Storage” really does mean multiple things.
What I learned in the snug clean out is that we really do need some kind of process for chucking things that have been in there for years unclaimed.
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