Making cogs from metal

Hi all, we’ve been using some laser-cut plywood cogs in a project at our Escape Game. They have worked since october, but are now starting to break, and the upkeep is proving difficult.

We’re wondering how feasible it would be to either cast these cogs in a metal, or cut them from metal, and if either of these options would be achievable at the makerspace. The cogs are 12mm thick, and vary in diameter from around 20cm to 7cm. For ease of use we’d like them to be the same shape and size. I have the inkscape files if that helps.

I’d need a bit of guidance, maybe from a metaltech, as I’m inexperienced with metalwork, but once I’m pointed in the right direction and things seem safe I’d be happy to work on this.

Hey Oscar,

Right right this is veeeery interesting project.

So, as a general rule, yes, we theoretically have the facilities to cut gears, but this is all untested as we are still in the process of commissioning the horizontal mill.

We have a selection of gear-forming cutters, but we never tried them out yet, so no guarantees.

That said the project is extremely interesting, so if you happen to be in the space Friday or Saturday evening, definitely come in the metal area and chat with me or @VintageSteel, who knows, we may be able to get something in place to help you.

Two things.

  1. I’d make sure you have geometry of the gears correct. It will make a huge difference to longevity. This guy makes a lot of things with wooden gears without any issues, so I’m surprised to hear they’d wear out in an escape game so quickly
  2. For something like an escape game, the tolerances you’d get on the CNC might be enough and you could cut them from aluminium. When you consider the price of stock, the number of failures you might get, and the number of tools you might break it could be cheaper to look at an online service like PCB way. It would be a lot less fun though
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You could try something like delrin - it’s really structurally sound and wear resistant but can be cut really easily on a lathe or cnc

Much cheaper than a 12mm block of most metals too

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Much as I love making things sometimes it’s better to buy.
Have a look here for starters.
H P C Gears Ltd
01246 268080

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Gareth

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Could you 3D print them from nylon or ABS?

Or cut from brass on CNC. If not heavy wear, lasercut Acrylic might be an option?

Can Delrin be cut on the laser? Maybe not 12mm thick though.

Delrin used to be used for small gears in high-end drawing and draughting instruments.

(I have a few parts I’d like to make from 6 or 8mm Delrin, but not gears)

I think brass would be a great solution, except that you need to sell your soul to the metal merchant to buy a short bar of 200mm diameter brass!!!

Hi!

This is extremely relevant to my interests and aligned with things I want to do for my projects, which unfortunately I haven’t had time to dedicate to yet. :grin:

I have some limited experience cutting brass and steel gears using the “traditional” method, with gear cutters and a dividing head on the mill, in another makerspace.

I’d love to do that at SLMS, and our mill should be able to do it, we’d just need a dividing head.

Depending on what your needs are, though, like others said, you may get away with simpler methods…

Do you have specs for the gears you have now? Specifically, teeth shape and size/module? Are these relevant to your practical needs? Or pretty much “any gear will do”?

Have you thought about just a metal band on wood gears to make them harder wearing?
Delrin as a machining material or 3D printing are good alternatives.

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You may find https://geargenerator.com/ of help. I have used it several times for laser cut gears (clock) and for generating 3-D profiles for gears with specific ratios and sizes. Not sure exactly what your application is but 12mm birch ply and a coarse pitch would surely last?? Just a bit tedious to cut on the fretsaw/bandsaw??