Laser cut ply and acrylic available to buy at the space

Can I suggest that as we were talking towards the end of last year about some kind of honesty box system for materials for the laser cutter such as ply and acrylic .

We have a trial with some laser birch ply.

hobarts do this pack
https://hobarts.com/sheet-materials/wood/laserply_124_15_56/laser-grade-birch-plywood-wood-sample-pack-p-1033.html

Pack consists of the following:
3mm Birch ply 10x sheets 600mmx400mm
4mm Birch ply 10x sheets 600mm x400mm
6mm Birch ply 10x sheets 600mm x400mm
cost is £100.50 + £11.42 shipping = £111.92

if we charged £4 a sheet total returns would be £120 (£8 profit)

I would be quite happy to pay £5.00 a sheet to have the convenience of materials such as ply and acrylic on hand at the space and not have to pay shipping.

if we all did this we would end up with a £38 profit on a pack which over time would allow us to build up materials
such as acrylic to the (stock) available to buy in the space.

I would like to offer my time to make a rack within the existing rack to hold the (ply to purchase)
plus an honesty box.

I would also be happy to administer this system (stock control, ordering ) but possibly a @lasertechs @lasers
would prefer to do it.

@directors , do we have the funds to start this with either £111.92 for one pack (or ideally £220.01 for 2x packs so we can purchase another once half the stock has gone) thus keeping a constant stock.

once we have a decent stock of materials the excess funds could be put by for servicing/extra lenses for the laser cutter.

  • yes it is a good idea, i would pay £4.00 a sheet
  • yes it is a good idea, i would pay £4.50 a sheet
  • yes it is a good idea, i would pay £5.00 a sheet
  • I would rather order it myself and pay shipping
  • Not a good idea (please add comments to thread)

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I think this is a great idea… one question - how big are the sheets?

my bad! have edited above. 400mmX 600mm
laser area i think is 438mmx 720mm so will fit easily

Haha - cheer Mark. Great plan - I’ve voted.

I think this’ll be really convenient. Especially if mistakes are made, you can just grab another sheet and carry on, instead of having to come back later.

Yes, this makes a lot of sense.

@lasertechs ?

Good plan

Great idea!

We need to design and build proper storage for laser materials, @Jonathan is happy we repurpose what he built, I’ll help when / where I can (moot offer currently but it’s the thought that counts?)

We could assign the space below for scraps. And then perhaps afford to chuck some of the smaller ones. Its piling up quite a lot in there.

maybe money should be purely digital though, since I know that London hackspace has had a ton of money stolen off the premises.

One of the earlier threads, which covers a lot of ground, is here: Laser material store?

Couple of points: @lasertechs need to agree they’re willing to trial this, then someone needs to take ownership of administration of it, under the umbrella of @lasertechs – doesn’t have to be a lasertech.

I’d keep the material list very simple: it’s probably best as to aid spontaneous making/prototyping, rather than a materials shop.

I think it comes under ‘safe enough to try, good enough for now’, in terms of an action.

We have a members’ meeting Tuesday next week, if someone wants to organise a proposal for this.

Sounds like a good idea to try.

If we did a trial with one batch of something simple and see how well it works, that would seem like a sensible starting point.

I am happy to head this up from the @lasertechs side of things, if the others are ok with that?

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Hi Mark and all …

It’s really great to have materials for use, and having someone know which materials to buy and getting whatever benefits of bulk is great.

Can I suggest we have clearly established rules for:

  • can I use the offcuts for free?
  • If I only want half a sheet can I get that?
  • If I buy a whole sheet can I leave my unused portion in the space?

My suggested answers would be:

  • A bucket marked “free offcuts”: you put your unwanted pieces in there; technicians free to move to bin at their discretion
  • No, you buy a whole sheet, rummage for offcuts, or go halves with a friend
  • A bucket marked “members’ offcuts” where you can leave clearly labelled “Barack’s Beech”. Material left here will be delabelled and moved to free offcuts at technicians’ discretion

My suggestions are intended to keep it free if you’re just making a little thing, experimenting and learning, while having some tidiness without us having to carry our plywood home every time.

Just tuppence; leaving it to (primary) laser technicians’ good judgement.

Kind regards to all,
J.

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I think this is an unqualified “yes”
We’re already swimming in offcuts (which I try to prune, but they just keep coming back!) so anything to get that stuff used up should be encouraged :slight_smile:

I’ve got no objections in principle to this sort of group purchase, and am happy to let @naxxfish run the scheme. Will have a think about how best to take payment

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Re additions to the existing laser materials rack: is the existing rack a permanent feature?

As for the materials themselves, I would like to point out that projected calculations of profit would appear to assume a uniform demand for all thicknesses of material. It is more likely that there will be a demand for one thickness of ply over the others, and the second-most frequently used considerably more than the third, and so on. So building a stockpile with equal quantities of each material might not be a good idea if recovery of those costs is an important goal.

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my idea of buying the pack of three sizes is a trial to see what sizes are in demand.

obviously included in the administration tasks would be regular stock control and re ordering the thickness that is the most popular, however this cannot be determined until we actually do it.

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Can we have some clear acrylic in the trial too ?

Think we also need a threat to notify the admin if you use a whole bunch and the stock is getting low ?

Courty

Perhaps the rule is:

  • you log your purchase on a specific Discourse thread (and immediately pay? - system TBC)
  • if there is less than, say, 4 sheets of the material left, you add that fact to the post

My experience is that we need to make it as easy as possible or it is less likely to get followed. I can easily imagine picking up some ply and think I will post to discourse when I am done and just forget about it.

I think if we want to log purchases, it would need to be a pen and paper job, and a request that you flag if it falls below 4 sheets on discourse.