General PC workstation for the clean room

Knock your socks off!

Dad: remember to tidy your room and the extraction and the budget and that they don’t work properly when you make them yourself and you don’t get a warranty.

Kids: whatever old man!!! Bite me!!!

(Do it!!!)

Don’t forget power pack but we might have.
And cables! We might have.

Who’s gonna buy the monitor? Or was that on there?

I haven’t got this excited since I built one with a pentium…wait for it…4!

pls pls pls pls pls (not)

(…kinda)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/322040010936

4Q is looking affordable. 4k? Desirable? How useful for us?

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Dunno. But it was mentioned, and that article was just a few days ago.

Is there an argument for getting a 4k monitor that says it’s worth it just so 100 plus members can try one for themselves under real world conditions at a cost per member of less than £3?

Um, do we really need 4K ? That’s a lot of pixels
I’ve found dell monitors to be good for the price. I have a 21" one that’s still going fine since 2004 ! They have an affordable 4K too if that’s what people want, I don’t quite see the point though, 2440px wide is already quite a comfortable bit of screen real estate.

No need for quadro cards at all. They don’t even run that fast. Consumer graphics are fine, you just want something that can churn polygons out quickly. I have a gtx660 which is a few years old now and it handles 1M+ polygons and cuda tasks no problem. More than enough for 3D cad tasks for the space. I’ve found adobe doesn’t leverage cuda very well though, not even after effects uses it very efficiently compared to other video software, so I wouldn’t get too caught up over it.

For 2D stuff Illustrator, photoshop and indesign ram is much more of a concern though, they want loads of it so they can display large documents without caching, so I think 4gb is not really enough. Especially since windows eats a large amount of that from the start.

ild echo this.
real examples are good.
they put things into ice cold perspective.

@pip s selection looks good and takes on board everything in the thread.

but if we can get a cheaper costed proposal even better.

i dont see the need for 4K either.
in my mind thats a years adobe suite for a tv.

@Barnaby_Coote could you add a link and price for what you think is a suitable card? or are you saying that we should be able to get this easily in an off the self CAD workstation?

I think we should get an older one but since they tend too keep their price highish before becoming unavailable maybe we should find one second hand

i wouldn’t spend more than 20 pounds on it

we should build a pc too rather than off the shelf
we could spec for a hackintosh and use it as a pc to begin with

but i think you get a massive discount if you get all the components at some place together ? not sure anymore I only did it once a couple of years ago

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i disagree that we should be build ourselves.
its typical faff of something that we could buy over the weekend and have set up by the open evening, but will spend weeks/months tinkering over something that wont have a warrenty. look at the printer. a warrenty would be good as its not a personl project but a members rescourse. relability needs to be high.

saying that, i dont want to spoil the fun and excitment!

but again at this point to maintain focus i think we need costed real world examples.

we know the brief. we know the budget.

have some fun! put a costed shopping list together and post it.
best one wins!

yes i mean spec it ourselves and get a builder to deliver it
there are websites that do that I think

:innocent::innocent:real world costed example, with links or screenshot :innocent::innocent:

but yes. sounds like a good approach.

could the @directors write a generic begging letter that we can send to manufacturers?

dear Asus,
please may we have a lovely pc.
if you dont give it to us, some one else will and then you’ll have lost free 3 year advertising to 146 members.
blah blah blah
love
makerpeeps

do we get VAT back ? can we budget ex vat ?

No, we can’t claim the VAT back.

As for begging letters: we don’t have a generic one. Best approach is ‘an exciting partnership’ and personalised targeting. Nothing worse than copy and paste requests. .

you are the daddy at sweet talking!

Generic begging letters don’t work it takes time to convince a company to do that, and a lot of research and just dumping it on the Directors to do doesn’t seem fair.

I used to do it as a Director but that came to an end.