Brain Control Interface interest group?

I think being able to control computers, robots and drones with your thought is coooool! I’m also interest in hacking the brain through biofeedback.

I’m keen but a total newbie.

I have a ICIBCI very basic 2 channel kit.

I’ve been looking at the low-ish cost DIY Neuroscience Kit – Pro.
Digikey has it for £149.

I’ve also been looking at the kits from OpenBCI (from £1000).

I was wondering if any member has experience in this topic, or has any of the kit listed above?

Is anyone else interested in exploring this topic with me?

Would a member pledge to buy an OpenBCI kit be of interest to enough of us?

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Hi Brendon.

No experience with this whatsoever, but very interested to learn more and support if a group were to form.

Some of my students in Finland were using openbci kit last year, I can ask them for feedback if that would be helpful.

That would be great, thanks!

Yes, I used various EEGs, but none of these. “Thought control” is over-hyped. Very basic units with 2ch aren’t much use except for basic biofeedback. (I have one somewhere that I was given and never got any use from) Biofeedback is valid and has utility e.g. for ADHD.

The DIY Neuroscience Pro Kit looks pretty cool for £149. It doesn’t include a cap though and it’s not clear what analysis software is used with this. Setting up a test is a lot of work - placement, gel etc. I’d start by looking at the software to use with this.

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I have an emotiv research edition headset and considering hacking it to upgrade the battery, it’s 14 channels I think. The saline solution can corrode the pads so it requires proper maintenance.

It came with some machine learning and it was possible to move objects in space by training the data sets, unfortunately it became a subscription model I don’t know how much opensource apps can get the raw data from this headset but it should work

It could also recognise some facial expressions with the software platform, it was all emerging as a platform, I think being able to capture raw data, it’s the basis of doing experiments and analysis

Was considering it for making music, but more interested in using it for case study while listening to music

Brain control involves repeatedly thinking a control feature and machine learning the dataset, not sure what the optimal amount of channels required for that

Hello! New member here - definitely interested in this - I teach Games Development and have been meaning to play around with this kind of kit for experimental projects!

Hi. Thanks for all the responses.

@directors - please approve a new discourse group called BCI & HMI.
Please make me the admin and I’ll add the people above.

After that, we can think about next steps.

https://www.perplexity.ai/page/meta-s-brain-to-text-ai-RsNeVfYKRq.ACDOVMt2AhQ

The group has been created. I’ve added you all.
Now to decide on next steps…

Good point about the software. This is what they have…

I’d appreciate your comments on these

From a brief look, Chords looks very basic. Have you seen it being able to do what you’d like to be able to do?

An alternative is MNE - far more functionality, but much much greater complexity. We had techs looking after this when running EEG experiments. I expect it would be a steep learning curve. Maybe AI could help? See what you think from tutorials etc.:

https://mne.tools/stable/auto_tutorials/index.html

The Emotiv system would probably be a lot less of a headache. If Zach would lend his and Emotiv could be pursuaded to give us a freebie software subscription, that might be the best.

Hi All

I will look for the old software that came with it, before it went subscription, they sold the epoch research headset with access to raw data, whereas their lesser models came with helpful apps and stuff

It is higher priority now, I’m still working on my flat, will have a good sort and be back soon regards loaning the headset to the space, there are consumables, the felt pads and the sensors corrode if they are not looked after properly

Best,
Zack

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