No you can get out of it that easy…
Your doing a fantastic job .
If it ant broke don’t fix it…
A bad gang of trustees will distroy the space very quickly .
SLMS is to good to let idiots like me run it…
No you can get out of it that easy…
Your doing a fantastic job .
If it ant broke don’t fix it…
A bad gang of trustees will distroy the space very quickly .
SLMS is to good to let idiots like me run it…
Totally what has been achieved so far is amazing, like Joe, totally want to be a part of it.
As Tom said, small jobs (toilet paper etc) all ready simply just get done, it’s the bigger decisions are sub-optimal here, shall I try the Design Brief experiment? Is the wall debate any closer to a desired resolution?
Basically, is Discourse is a good tool for collecting / collating a ‘veto of the masses’? Could it be better? I am more than happy to spear head it, I meant to get the design brief up all ready I’ve just been really busy at work and unsure if I’m overreaching for a newbie 
I’m more than happy to join in with your experiments. Reach away!
I vote for the design brief option…
Oh…
Controversial edit made to the opening sentence. I took a step back, and think that’s the truest expression. We can’t be a workshop and a community, workshops don’t have values, etc. There must be a better way to phrase the ‘members aren’t customers’ bit, though: the intent is to say the community has i. a real thing (the workshop) and ii. a real organisation that embodies the key value of a inclusive community.
(Phrase thought of as I wrote this: we self-facilitatate, we are not a service provider)
A4 Flyer has this text –
South London Makerspace is a social community workshop.
All creative activities welcome:
Electronics, knitting, woodwork, sculpture etc. Wide range of power and hand tools.
24 hour access.
Run by its members for its members. You decide how the space is run.
With FAQ –
What is South London Makerspace
A member-owned workshop and workspace, run and maintained by the members, for whatever tools and projects you wish.
What South London Makerspace is not
A service that you purchase, maintained by paid staff or an alternative to renting an office.
What does membership cost?
The minimum is £20 per month. Membership fees are flexible; if you can’t afford that much, speak to the Trustees to see what can be done. If you can pay more, that really helps.
What do I get as a member?
24/7 access to the space and its equipment. A share of the responsibility for the space and its equipment. Membership of a community of like-minded people.
Do/will you have  tool/machine/equipment?
What you see is what you get and it has all been donated by members. If you would like a new tool for the space, you can ask other members to club together with you and pledge money towards that tool
.
What are members’ responsibilities?
The members are collectively responsible for the organisation, maintenance and cleanliness of the space. If it’s dirty, clean it. If it’s broken, fix it. Each member is liable to pay a maximum of £1 to cover any remaining debts in the unlikely event the company is closed down.
How do I join?
You must be over 18 and have a UK bank account (under-18s are welcome in the space but must be accompanied by an adult). Visit members.southlondonmakerspace.org and follow the instructions. When we receive your first payment (within 3-5 working days), your membership is activated and you can access the space.
Taking a different tack, I really like this part from the FAQ
Riffing on that, we could have something like:
South London Makerspace is a member-owned workshop, run and maintained by the members, for whatever tools and projects you wish. More than that, it is a community dedicated to sharing space, skills and resources for making things, and doing so adhering to the following values:
Got busy at work, but still think this is important.
@tobyspark - though I totally am with the sentiment my sentence stickling senses are ringing at your addition and after playing around I couldn’t get anything better, then on reflection I thought maybe leave it out and just have the first sentence, clear and simple. The rest is spelled out in the body - which I couldn’t help but edit, but if you want to go through it together at an open evening in the next couple weeks would be good?
Here’s what I have (below) though far from perfect, bit of repetition but I guess I maybe shouldn’t be a perfectionist.
South London Makerspace is a community dedicated to sharing space, skills and resources for making things.
Self-facilitation
We started and shall continue to be bootstrapped by people wanting to better their making situation. We organise as a collective and believe that everyone has equal say and responsibility in the running and maintaining of the space.
Inclusivity
We believe in a future where making is accessible to more people, and better things happen because of that. To that end, we firmly promote inclusivity in our membership and aim to provide not only resources but also a welcoming social culture that fosters skill sharing and collaboration.
Design
We value process as well as outcome, and so design as much as hack. This should be seen in the space we build, where aesthetics and practicality can be seen as proud partners.
I think we should partner the thing with the benefit. This general pattern brings the issues to life, and to my eyes this edit has taken a step away from that. Of course, that’s not to say my wordsmithery had got there before in the replies here, or in the top post edit I just made.
Some edit notes
Liking it - you around an evening this week?
I’m down to host open evening, tho’ I’ve got a clash and am trying to swap weeks with somebody. But in principle, yes and if not this week then next.
great, hopefully see you Wednesday, or the week after either should be fine for me.